Then there was a second stage, that of "artificial procreation", "pursuing a child even outside the marital bond" and opening up to new prospects: "cloning, surrogate mothers, tests on embryos, taking embryo stem cells, and even male pregnancy". "The final consequence concluded mgr. Sgreccia is that a child becomes an optional item, and love becomes an exercise of bio-psychological dynamisms, separated from spirituality and procreative responsibility". According to the president of the Papal Pro-Life Academy, to give "fecundity" even today to the focal message of the Council’s document "Humanae Vitae", it must be made "fully human". It means, first and foremost, "giving new evangelical impulse to believers, often scared and afflicted by the mood of failure and almost paralysed by the barriers of secularisation". But this can be achieved only by promoting a "circular dialogue between faith and reason and between science and morality, a dialogue in which reason is cured and enlightened and is never weakened or dimmed". We need young and adults who "can work a synthesis". "It will be above all the confirmation of the testimony" that "can give solidity to the magisterial appeals and the pastoral work". ” ” ” “